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BML

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Sun, 15 Apr 2018 @ 11:12:56

Hi,

After posting a question on here the other day, about 8track SHA1 (and getting my question answered perfectly, may I add), I noticed that when cracking the aforementioned hash, with salt, even though the hash list was laid out like this :

Hash:salt
hash:salt
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The mode to use was sha1(salt:hash) .... (I know that 8track is actually --salt--:hash--, or --salt--:pass-- to be exact, but that would just confuse the question I'm actually asking about)

then I noticed someone asking for some md5 hashes, with salt, to be cracked. Even though the list was given in Hash:salt format (like the sha1 example above), the suggested mode to use was md5(salt:hash).

I'm wondering why this is, that the list is given in one format, but the attack mode is backwards (as in the above 2 examples) ?
And more to the point, is this the same for every hash/salt combo mode?

I'm slightly confused by this. Perhaps somebody could shed some light on the 2 questions above, or even just some ideas on why this is.

Thankyou in advance..


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Mon, 16 Apr 2018 @ 09:03:10

Just an addendum:

If nobody can answer the above, could somebody just clarify if this is the case for all hash:salt combo's? (to put hash list in hash:salt format), but attack mode in xxx(salt:pass) format?

I have been trying my attack modes in the same format as my hash layout, ie./ xxx(pass:salt), and after seeing the above 2 mentioned examples (8track sha1 & the md5 one), I'm beginning to doubt all my previous attempts when using salts. Have I been wasting my time, by using the wrong attack modes? :/

thankyou.


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Mon, 16 Apr 2018 @ 13:42:31

BML said:

Just an addendum:

If nobody can answer the above, could somebody just clarify if this is the case for all hash:salt combo's? (to put hash list in hash:salt format), but attack mode in xxx(salt:pass) format?

I have been trying my attack modes in the same format as my hash layout, ie./ xxx(pass:salt), and after seeing the above 2 mentioned examples (8track sha1 & the md5 one), I'm beginning to doubt all my previous attempts when using salts. Have I been wasting my time, by using the wrong attack modes? :/

thankyou.

heres are the example of the hashes https://hashcat.net/wiki/doku.php?id=example_hashes


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Mon, 16 Apr 2018 @ 14:54:54

BML said:


then I noticed someone asking for some md5 hashes, with salt, to be cracked. Even though the list was given in Hash:salt format (like the sha1 example above), the suggested mode to use was md5(salt:hash).

You are confusing two things here. Hash:Salt is just the format in which it is provided. But md5(salt.pass) is the hash algorithm. And the format to provide the hashes is Hash:Salt, no matter if it's md5(salt.pass) or md5(pass.salt).


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Wed, 18 Apr 2018 @ 13:55:32

Thanks for the link, payknight.. Very useful..

And big thanks for explaining it to me s3in!c, I understand now, I was just presuming the format was the algorithm..

Both been a great help, thanks buddies ..

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